I think it is too late, but what you could do is quietly attend with ~100-200 people (or bots) as I’m fairly sure they use a free or low cost service level which means they are limited to anywhere between 40 and 200 attendees. Just join ~45m in advance and say you’re really interested in this talk - except nobody else can join. They would be all sorts of confused and talk about the great amount of visitors and everyone else would just be sitting at home wondering if it’s all worth it.
Anony Mous
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Would it be right to post Memorial Zoom codes?
by ExCircuitOverseer ini have come into possession of memorial zoom meeting codes for tonight that cannot be traced back to me.
i will not be attending.
what are your thoughts on posting these codes so activists can join tonight and maybe say something?
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Derek Chauvin - The Right to a Fair Trial
by Simon inanyone following the derek chauvin trial?.
if you are actually following it, not just listening to the media, you will likely realize that there is a huge gap between what is going on in court and what is being reported in the media.. if the trial was fair, i think he should be acquitted.
there is plenty of reasonable doubt about the cause of death (his dealer doesn't want to testify because he could be guilty of 3rd degree murder for selling him a fatal amount of fentanyl) and even doubt over whether the officer even had his knee on the guys neck or did anything counter to what they were meant to do as per policy.. but is it fair?
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@Rocketman: even the EMT testified the situation had gotten too dangerous for them to revive him on the street. He literally stops yelling and screaming out for only the last 3 minutes before EMT arrive. You don’t die from hypoxia in 3 minutes, healthy people can last 15 minutes - 2 hours without oxygen.
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Do You Tip At Eateries?
by minimus inif you go to a restaurant, do you tip and typically how much?
if you were given a 90 minute time frame to eat at a restaurant, would that restriction limit your tipping to the waitress or waiter?.
also if you order a coffee and donut and pick it up, do you contribute to the “tip jar” that’s on the counter?
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Anony Mous
@FedUpJW: I think that practice has largely been made illegal. It’s also not necessary to report tips, to either your employer or the tax man and then they have to pay you minimum wage.
Hence good waiters can make significant amounts of money, you do 5 tables in an hour, you get 10/table, that’s good income, hell even 5/table is good. Kind of like contractors, as long as business is good, you do really good. It’s not going to make you a millionaire but it’s an honest income.
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Derek Chauvin - The Right to a Fair Trial
by Simon inanyone following the derek chauvin trial?.
if you are actually following it, not just listening to the media, you will likely realize that there is a huge gap between what is going on in court and what is being reported in the media.. if the trial was fair, i think he should be acquitted.
there is plenty of reasonable doubt about the cause of death (his dealer doesn't want to testify because he could be guilty of 3rd degree murder for selling him a fatal amount of fentanyl) and even doubt over whether the officer even had his knee on the guys neck or did anything counter to what they were meant to do as per policy.. but is it fair?
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Anony Mous
@Rocketman: That is exactly what the defense has shown so far: there was a large crowd that equally if not more contributed to the actions police had to take. That doesn't make the crowd responsible for his death though. They may have contributed. Same for the EMT, they arrived and couldn't get to him because of the crowd, should the EMT have pushed through, they MAY have saved him, that doesn't make them responsible. And this is the defense for Chauvin as well, he may not have died if not for the arrest, he may not have died if not for the restraint, but that doesn't make him responsible.
What the prosecution has to demonstrate is that he had premeditated killing Floyd (first degree murder), acted in a depraved manner causing his death (second degree murder) or was committing a felony causing his death (third degree murder). The first one is unlikely, because he didn't know Floyd personally, the second one is not applicable because he didn't just randomly pick Floyd out of the crowd and wrestled him to the ground, the third is unlikely because he was authorized and trained to use the force he did.
If they want him for manslaughter, that could be a thing but then they have to prove recklessness which means Chauvin knew he could potentially kill him but ignored this fact and then ended up killing him. However, as we have seen since, this was a common technique trained to him that was better than other forms of force, without his or common knowledge that this could've killed someone.
The only thing they could get him on is not following his training to the letter (and even that is unlikely) and that would neither be manslaughter or murder, but just negligence resulting in at best a reprimand, at worst, him losing his job.
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Do You Tip At Eateries?
by minimus inif you go to a restaurant, do you tip and typically how much?
if you were given a 90 minute time frame to eat at a restaurant, would that restriction limit your tipping to the waitress or waiter?.
also if you order a coffee and donut and pick it up, do you contribute to the “tip jar” that’s on the counter?
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Anony Mous
@Simon: No, these aren't rules established here. Many restaurants have menus and many do let you wait inside. The problem is, as I said, establishments (especially chains) cheaping out because they want less staff to do more tables. Again, if you don't want to clean menus, just print a piece of paper on your office printer for those that don't want to figure out how to use the app, it's late, I've been on my phone all day because of work, my battery is dead, now I need to pass around my wife's phone, what do the kids want, pass around a phone to them?
The waitress doesn't have to come around to give you menus or ask for drinks or give you the check, because they expect you to do it on their app/website that then tracks you and pushes advertising. To me that's less service, because I might as well do takeout then. I'm not going to tip more than the 18% if the waiter isn't allowed or won't come to my table, I also won't go back there.
Same with waiting outside, stand up for your customers, don't let someone, who doesn't have kids (you know the type) push you around because they look rich and say they're well connected.
I generally tip 20-30% or more (I've even tipped well over 100% on a $120 dinner), partially because I can (I can deduct expenses on my taxes) and partially I do think it's well earned. But especially chain restaurants are having their waiters come around only twice or three times to your table in an hour, glass empty, plates empty, "just use the app if you want service" - fuck that - don't work there because a lot of people won't go there anymore and then they'll be surprised when they go out of business. Local restaurants are a lot better.
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Derek Chauvin - The Right to a Fair Trial
by Simon inanyone following the derek chauvin trial?.
if you are actually following it, not just listening to the media, you will likely realize that there is a huge gap between what is going on in court and what is being reported in the media.. if the trial was fair, i think he should be acquitted.
there is plenty of reasonable doubt about the cause of death (his dealer doesn't want to testify because he could be guilty of 3rd degree murder for selling him a fatal amount of fentanyl) and even doubt over whether the officer even had his knee on the guys neck or did anything counter to what they were meant to do as per policy.. but is it fair?
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Anony Mous
haI quoted you from the autopsy report which you can find online.
I think you are quoting Dr. Isenschmidt, who was not the person that did the autopsy but a random expert witness. It is true that Isenschmidt said that others in a group of DUI have had higher levels of Fentanyl when tested and didn't die but on cross Isenschmidt admitted to the defense: the median level of fentanyl among another group (statistics on overdoses) was below Mr. Floyd’s. And even that evidence was poor, it showed something like 30% which is really the top of a bell curve - so there are people in the world that can take Fentanyl a lot better. That doesn't mean anything, statisticians can prove all sorts of things if you just limit yourself to the top 30% in the world, nobody needs to be hungry, everyone is rich and drives Ferrari's.
As with all drugs, it doesn't matter whether or not someone else can tolerate higher levels, there are many aspects that go into whether you can tolerate it. The fact he had 75% of his arteries blocked probably didn't help.
He also conceded to the defense attorney that although he does know that Floyd had taken a LOT of Fentanyl before he even left his house, he doesn't know whether Floyd took more Fentanyl right before or during his arrest (the pills in the back of the cruiser testify to that) because in his own words, blood tests don't show WHEN a drug was taken, it only shows up later.
Again, there is tons of testimony, only taking out of context what the prosecution wants to admit, isn't creating a fair perception of the trial. Off course the prosecution will only show what's the worse for the defendant, and the defense will only show what's best. In this case however, all the defense has to do is cast reasonable doubt.
Is it possible that he died because of the knee? Sure. But that's what's called a but-for causation. But-for he wouldn't have left his house that day, but-for the guy in front of him didn't stop at a traffic light, he would've been 5 minutes earlier, but-for a meteor fell out of the sky, it doesn't make his landlord or the guy driving the car or 'god' responsible for what happened. But-for the police hadn't arrested him, he may (or may not) have been alive and nobody would know his name, just another junky dead either now or in the near future. That doesn't mean the police were responsible, also doesn't mean the police weren't responsible or didn't contribute to his death. The EMT arrives and they do a "scoop-and-scoot" why - because they were afraid of the crowd. So if they hadn't done that and tried to resuccitate on the sidewalk, he could've still been alive? Maybe, maybe not? But for the crowd hadn't formed, this would've been a lot calmer? Maybe? Maybe not?
Again, what the prosecution has to do is prove that it is exclusively the fault (manslaughter) or his personal intention (murder) of Chauvin for Floyd to die. All the defense has to do is prove that a bunch of aspects went into his death and it probably wouldn't matter whether or not Chauvin put the knee on his back (as the neck/blood choke theory has since been disproven).
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Do You Tip At Eateries?
by minimus inif you go to a restaurant, do you tip and typically how much?
if you were given a 90 minute time frame to eat at a restaurant, would that restriction limit your tipping to the waitress or waiter?.
also if you order a coffee and donut and pick it up, do you contribute to the “tip jar” that’s on the counter?
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Anony Mous
I always tip well - 20-25%, however lately, because service has been limited, I tip less.
Example:
There are places where they don't even give you a menu anymore, you have to go online and scan a code. Because printing a sheet of paper and either laminating it so you could wipe it or just giving you the damn piece of paper is so darn expensive? It's what 1 or 2c of a modern laser printer? I don't tip there as much, because I have to do all the effort to find and order food on a screen when I just told my kids they couldn't have a screen. Sure it saves THEM money, and COVID is just an excuse for them to not have to spend $50/month at the printer, but I go to restaurants to avoid my screen and take a break.Another example:
I went to a place where they had this huge entrance space. Couldn't wait there, I had to wait with my family of 5 outside in the cold for 30 minutes. There is no government regulation right now that prevents us from waiting there, but because some patrons felt uncomfortable that 'too many people' were inside and kids would run around and those people were loud and annoying that it was "unsafe". So they now kick everyone out. Guess what: I don't have to service your restaurant either, if you cave to the woke and uninformed idiots that are loud, then have just them as your guest.On the other hand:
I went to another restaurant, treated us nicely, owner talked with us across the tables. They did their best to accommodate us and the kids, didn't complain when the 3 year old didn't want to mask to go to the bathroom. That waiter got a good tip, because they understand that having 3 kids is hard and you go to the restaurant so you don't have to do dishes and need a break. -
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Derek Chauvin - The Right to a Fair Trial
by Simon inanyone following the derek chauvin trial?.
if you are actually following it, not just listening to the media, you will likely realize that there is a huge gap between what is going on in court and what is being reported in the media.. if the trial was fair, i think he should be acquitted.
there is plenty of reasonable doubt about the cause of death (his dealer doesn't want to testify because he could be guilty of 3rd degree murder for selling him a fatal amount of fentanyl) and even doubt over whether the officer even had his knee on the guys neck or did anything counter to what they were meant to do as per policy.. but is it fair?
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Anony Mous
@Rocketman123: He didn't have "traces" of fentanyl
Per the autopsy report he had a level of 11ng per ml in his blood that means 0.0011% of his blood was composed of pure Fentanyl. To give you an idea how much that is, 1% makes up ALL your white blood cells AND platelets (what JW's are allowed to take in a transfusion), so 1 platelet in 1000 platelets was not a platelet but Fentanyl - in other words, he had more Fentanyl than he had trace amounts of copper or most other metals except for iron that are naturally present in our body.
“If he were found dead at home alone and no other apparent causes, this could be acceptable to call an O.D. [Over Dose],” the notes say. “Deaths have been certified with levels of 3,” the notes indicate.
And not only did he have Fentanyl, he ALSO had 19ng of Methamphetamines and other drugs in his body, which alone would've gotten him a DUI/DWI, but has proven fatal in combination with alcohol or other drugs in some cases. Methamphetamines are less potent so it requires more of it to kill you, but then they found a number of half chewed and full meth/fentanyl pills on the floor of the police cruiser in which he was sitting, with his blood and DNA on it, so presumably he just ingested those and either vomited with blood or spit them out (although it's unlikely the police wouldn't have noticed his mouth was full).
Let's say we 'recycled' the blood in his body, extracted the Fentanyl again, you could have overdosed 3-4 "normal" healthy people with the result.
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Derek Chauvin - The Right to a Fair Trial
by Simon inanyone following the derek chauvin trial?.
if you are actually following it, not just listening to the media, you will likely realize that there is a huge gap between what is going on in court and what is being reported in the media.. if the trial was fair, i think he should be acquitted.
there is plenty of reasonable doubt about the cause of death (his dealer doesn't want to testify because he could be guilty of 3rd degree murder for selling him a fatal amount of fentanyl) and even doubt over whether the officer even had his knee on the guys neck or did anything counter to what they were meant to do as per policy.. but is it fair?
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Anony Mous
@FFGhost: Follow the trial, not the media, it will be eye-opening. Two expert witnesses initially called by the prosecution have now been called back by the defense to testify on their behalf. They both testified that a) this is the correct way of handling the situation b) this is how they would've done it c) the knee was not on the neck, it was on the shoulder and the back, according to protocol d) the situation was exacerbated by drugs.
The media isn't covering the trial because they are lying to you, they only report on what the prosecution has to say, but not when the defense completely shellacks both the prosecution and the witness. They have a narrative that they need to uphold, the defense only has to prove reasonable doubt. And there is plenty of reasonable doubt, the EMT's testified that he was still alive, he died on the way to the hospital, Floyd said he "ate too many drugs", the media spins this as he said "he didn't do drugs", when he was clearly high and had so much Fentanyl and Meth in his body, his own friend, the drug dealer doesn't want to testify for he would be prosecuted for murder but others indicated he was already having problems waking him up.
This is the timeline: they were trying to run from the police, he got in the car and became comatose, hence why him and his buddies were still there when the police showed up, then he became very irrational, started yelling, he said he couldn't breathe when he was still in the police car which he resisted going in, so they took him out, he resisted coming out, they called EMT, he was sitting on the ground, then he became violent, the police held him down and he was struggling, he stopped struggling about the time when EMT arrived and he had no pulse (or weak/irregular pulse, depending on what point in the timeline) when EMT arrived, he was still speaking incoherent, then went comatose and was declared dead later in the hospital. All this happened in the timespan of about 10-15 minutes while there was a mob forming threatening the police officers.
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Derek Chauvin - The Right to a Fair Trial
by Simon inanyone following the derek chauvin trial?.
if you are actually following it, not just listening to the media, you will likely realize that there is a huge gap between what is going on in court and what is being reported in the media.. if the trial was fair, i think he should be acquitted.
there is plenty of reasonable doubt about the cause of death (his dealer doesn't want to testify because he could be guilty of 3rd degree murder for selling him a fatal amount of fentanyl) and even doubt over whether the officer even had his knee on the guys neck or did anything counter to what they were meant to do as per policy.. but is it fair?
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Anony Mous
I actually watched the trial the other day when they called the expert use of force witness and one of the teachers of the Minnesota academy on the prosecutors side. All very generic, trying to make it seem that Chauvin should’ve known.
On cross however, the teacher admitted that they only trained cadets and it was unlikely Chauvin was trained on their newfangled policy, he also admitted the policy was not grounded in real situations. On cross it went something like this: So in your diagram you say to listen to the people surrounding the scene and take all that information in at once, because they are holding cameras, is that person holding a camera? No, he seems to be holding that persons arm? Does he seem to be holding that person back? That is what it looks like. Is it reasonable to conclude that thuis person is there not just to film the scene? That is correct. So they have to take that into account as well, that the crowd may be there to harm the police officer. That is correct.
Then you see the prosecution get testy with their own witness. Then the defense calls back the prosecutions witness to testify on their behalf. You saw the prosecutor just sink into the deepest hole. If your expert witness is so bad, that the defense asks to testify for them, you have a problem.
Then a bunch of pictures, does it look like the knee is on the shoulder blades towards the police cruiser. Yes. Does it look like the knee is on the back and the shoulder blades towards the police car. Yes. Does it look like the knee is on Mr. Floyd’s neck. No. Have you ever held a suspect down like this: yes. Is this a common way: Yes. Did they die: no. That’s how you train police officers to deal in these situations: yes.
Then the EMT: you said he died of asphyxia: yes. Can that be caused by a drug overdose: yes. Fentanyl: yes. methamphetamines: yes. Both: yes. Does Mr. Floyd appear to be able to speak here: yes. Can you tell me what Mr. Floyd appears to say in this video to the EMT right before he was loaded in the ambulance. I can’t make it out. Does it sound like “I ate too much drugs”. Yes.